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    <font face="Calibri">Προσωπικά είμαι εντελώς αντίθετος με τον τρόπο
      που υλοποιείται στο application level και όχι τόσο με τα
      πρωτόκολλα τα ίδια.<br>
      Θα περίμενα τουλάχιστον να υπάρχει κάτι σε επίπεδο λειτουργικού
      συστήματος για το ποιες εφαρμογές (μπορούν να) χρησιμοποιούν
      DoH/DoT και σε ποιους servers (με δυνατότητα αλλαγής).<br>
      <br>
      Επίσης δεν μπορώ να φανταστώ πόσες τρύπες ανοίγουν για
      hackers/phishers/botnets/etc. (βλ.</font> <font face="Calibri"><a
href="https://www.proofpoint.com/us/threat-insight/post/psixbot-continues-evolve-updated-dns-infrastructure">https://www.proofpoint.com/us/threat-insight/post/psixbot-continues-evolve-updated-dns-infrastructure</a>)<br>
      Αν μη τι άλλο θα ξαναγίνει και το DPI/MITM της μόδας.<br>
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Tassos
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Aris Lambrianidis wrote on 18/9/19
      18:02:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:AM0PR08MB53166706E30FE2969E834C30CA8E0@AM0PR08MB5316.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com">
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      Eπίσης: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://kb.isc.org/docs/using-response-policy-zones-to-disable-mozilla-doh-by-default"
        moz-do-not-send="true">
https://kb.isc.org/docs/using-response-policy-zones-to-disable-mozilla-doh-by-default</a><br>
      <br>
      Πάντως γενικά το trend που ξεκίνησε εδώ και χρόνια είναι να χάνουν
      έδαφος τα operations/corporate security εις "βάρος"
      <br>
      του privacy/end user security.<br>
      <br>
      'Οσο και να εκτιμώ τους δόκιμους λόγους πίσω από αυτές τις
      τεχνολογίες τύπου DoH/DoT
      <br>
      (αν και τα όποια politics παίζουν ίσως σημαντικότερο ρόλο),<br>
      θα με ενδιέφερε πάρα πολύ να δω έναν από όλους αυτούς τους privacy
      evangelists να μας εξηγήσει τελικά πώς γίνεται πλέον<br>
      troubleshooting και forensics σε ένα δίκτυο που τα πάντα τείνουν
      στο να είναι κρυπτογραφημένα. Και το SSL/TLS decryption είναι<br>
      μεγάλος πονοκέφαλος από μόνο του.<br>
      <br>
      Κάπου αισθάνομαι πως αντιμετωπίζεται το πρόβλημα με λάθος τρόπο
      και ο μόνος που τελικά επωφελείται είναι οι security vendors
      <br>
      που ευχαρίστως θα σου πουλήσουν άλλη μια τεχνολογία για να λύσουν
      το νέο σου πρόβλημα, και η Google και η κάθε Google που
      <br>
      θέλει να συγκεντρώσει όσο πιο πολλά δεδομένα μπορεί.<br>
      <br>
      Κατ'ελάχιστο, ας ρωτούσε το Firefox ποιον DNS provider θες να
      χρησιμοποιήσεις (και αν θες άλλον εκτός αυτόν του λειτουργικού
      σου),
      <br>
      όπως το browser ballot των Windows.<br>
      <br>
      Φιλικά,<br>
      Άρης Λαμπριανίδης<br>
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      <span>Antonios Chariton (daknob) wrote on 18/09/2019 10:41:</span><br>
      <blockquote type="cite"
        cite="mid:DA2F4ACF-223A-4810-8FF5-F83CA3F31C81@daknob.net"
        style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
        line-break: after-white-space;">
        Σωστά, ναι, υπάρχει αυτή η δυνατότητα, αλλά δεν γνωρίζουμε για
        πόσο θα υπάρχει ακόμη, αν θα τηρηθεί και από άλλους εκτός του
        Firefox και της Mozilla γενικότερα, κτλπ. Αν οι operators
        συνεχίσουν να προσφέρουν plaintext DNS, τότε οι browsers θα
        έχουν το δικαίωμα μετά να το αγνοήσουν, για να προστατεύσουν
        τους χρήστες τους.. Και αν δεν το κάνουν “αυταρχικά” και μια
        μέρα σταματήσουν να το κοιτάνε αυτό το DNS record, μπορεί να
        εμφανίσουν ένα pop up: “Ο πάροχος Ίντερνετ σου δεν είναι
        ασφαλής, θέλεις να χρησιμοποιήσουμε έναν ασφαλή πάροχο;” με ένα
        τεράστιο πράσινο κουμπί “ΟΚ”, και ένα κρυμμένο πίσω από 4 άλλα
        κουμπιά, με μικρά κίτρινα γράμματα σε άσπρο φόντο κουμπί που να
        λέει “Όχι”.
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        <div class="">Προσωπικά αυτήν την επιλογή θα την έβλεπα ως κάτι
           προσωρινό, που δεν θα κρατήσει πολύ, και αυτό αν και άλλοι
          πέραν της mozilla το εφαρμόσουν.. Ως μακροχρόνια λύση θα
          έβλεπα πως είτε θα πρέπει να κάνω την κίνηση αυτή και να
          υποστηρίξω DoT, είτε να αποδεχθώ πως σε 1-2-3 χρόνια δεν θα
          δέχομαι πλέον τα DNS queries των χρηστών, και δεν θα μπορώ να
          παραπονεθώ και γι’ αυτό.</div>
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        <div class="">Νομίζω είναι κάτι αντίστοιχο με το HTTPS. Κάποιοι
          δεν το ήθελαν, έστηναν proxies για να το ξεπεράσουν, κτλπ
          κτλπ, self-signed root CAs, … και εν τέλη απλά αυτό δεν
          μπόρεσε να αντέξει στον χρόνο.. Με κλασσικό παράδειγμα
          εταιρείες που προσπάθησαν σκόπιμα να αδυναμώσουν το TLSv1.3,
          γιατί ήταν τόσο ασφαλές που δεν θα δούλευαν σε αυτό τα MitM
          boxes τους.. :-)</div>
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        <div class="">Αντώνης<br class="">
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                <div class="">On 18 Sep 2019, at 11:32, Dimitris
                  Kalogeras <<a href="mailto:D.Kalogeras@noc.ntua.gr"
                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">D.Kalogeras@noc.ntua.gr</a>>
                  wrote:</div>
                <div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                    font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                    normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight:
                    normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">Εναλλακτικά από το blog της mozzila ...<span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/configuring-networks-disable-dns-over-https"
                    style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                    font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                    font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                    orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                    text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
                    auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust:
                    auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/configuring-networks-disable-dns-over-https</a><br
                    style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">Network administrators may configure their
                    networks as follows to signal that their local DNS
                    resolver implemented special features that make the
                    network unsuitable for DoH:</span><br
                    style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">DNS queries for the A and AAAA records for
                    the domain "</span><a
                    href="http://use-application-dns.net/"
                    style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                    font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                    font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                    orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                    text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
                    auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust:
                    auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""
                    moz-do-not-send="true">use-application-dns.net</a><span
                    style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">" must respond with NXDOMAIN rather than
                    the IP address retrieved from the authoritative
                    nameserver.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
                    0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                    font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                    font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                    text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
                    none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">Διαβάστε όλο το κείμενο στο :</span><br
                    style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">Αρα μπορείς κάποιος να χρησιμοποιήσει το<span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
                    href="http://use-application-dns.net/"
                    style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                    font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                    font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                    orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
                    text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
                    auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust:
                    auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""
                    moz-do-not-send="true">use-application-dns.net</a><span
                    style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>να
                    απαντάει NXDOMAIN εάν χρειάζεται κάποιος να
                    "χειρίζεται"</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
                    0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                    font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                    font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                    text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
                    none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">το DoH.</span><br style="caret-color:
                    rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
                    12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                    font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                    text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
                    none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">Χαιρετισμούς</span><br style="caret-color:
                    rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
                    12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                    font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                    text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
                    none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;" class="">
                  <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                    Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                    font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
                    normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">Δημήτρης<br class="">
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                    class="">Δημήτρης Καλογεράς</span><br
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                    class="">Ερευνητής Β' ΕΠΙΣΕΥ</span><br
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