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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Δεν έχω κάποια άμεση σχέση με την
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Level</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">3, αλλά από ότι ακούγεται σε άλλες λίστες, το
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">IRR</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
<span lang="EL">εργαλείο τους που αντλεί δεδομένα από δική τους βάση έχει σταματήσει να λειτουργεί εδώ και ~8 μήνες. Συνεπώς είχαν κάποτε λάβει κάποια μέτρα και για κάποιον άγνωστο λόγο σταμάτησαν. Αν μη τι άλλο αυτό τους προκαλεί και αυξημένο φόρτο εργασίας
καθώς ο κάθε πελάτης που έχει φίλτρο ( ναι, σε αρκετούς έχουν ) θα πρέπει να απασχολήσει ανθρώπινους πόρους κάθε φορά που θέλει να διαφημίσει ένα νέο δίκτυο/πελάτη.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Πρακτικά, χρησιμοποιώ κλασσικό
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">community</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">tagging</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
<span lang="EL">για να ξεχωρίσω </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">transit</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">/</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">peer</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">/</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">customer</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">routes</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
<span lang="EL">με κάποια πολύ γενικά </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">outbound</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">filters</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> καθώς και
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">automatically</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">generated</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">inbound</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">prefix</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">filters</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
<span lang="EL">σύμφωνα με </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">as</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">set</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
<span lang="EL">ή </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">aut</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">num</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
. Στο κομμάτι της υλοποίησης, το πρώτο είναι αυτονόητο και το δεύτερο το έχουμε φτιάξει με το
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">bgpq</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">3 και λίγο
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">scripting</span><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My thoughts and words are my own.<br>
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Kind Regards,<br>
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Spyros<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> grnog-request@lists.grnog.gr [mailto:grnog-request@lists.grnog.gr]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Kalogeras<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 16, 2015 4:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> grnog@lists.grnog.gr<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [grnog] Το leak της ημέρας ( AS4788 -> AS3549 )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Καλημέρα/σπέρα,<br>
<br>
επανέρχομαι στο θέμα και στο Link που είχε στείλει ο Σπύρος <br>
(<a href="https://www.bgpmon.net/massive-route-leak-cause-internet-slowdown/">https://www.bgpmon.net/massive-route-leak-cause-internet-slowdown/</a>)<br>
<br>
Μέσα φαίνεται λοιπόν οτι υπάρχουν δύο ανεξάρτητες αμέλειες δύο ISPs <br>
η μία είναι της Malaysia Telecom και η άλλη της Level 3..<br>
(<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">Level3 erroneously accepted these prefixes and announced these to their peers and customers...
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">και</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"><br>
The 176,000 leaked prefixes are likely all Telekom Malaysia’s customer prefixes combined with routes they learned from peers. )<br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">Προσω</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ικά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ιστεύω</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">οτι</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">όταν</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">το</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">λάθος</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"> "</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">σκάσει</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">"
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">στον</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"> Tier1 provider
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">θα</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ε</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ακολουθήσουν</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">αυτά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ου</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">είδαμε</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">και</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ο</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ως</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">σωστά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">εί</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ε</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ο</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">Φαίδων</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">δεν</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μ</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ορεί</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">να</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">κάνει</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">κάτι</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">η</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"> Level3 (</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ρολη</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">τικά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">)
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μ</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ορεί</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">να</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μην</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">βοηθά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">και</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">η</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">υφιστάμενη</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">κατάσταση</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">της</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">τεχνολογίας</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">.<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">Α</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ο</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">την</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">λευρά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">της</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">η</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"> Malaysia telecom
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ραγματικά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">θα</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μ</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ορούσε</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">να</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">κάνει</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">κάτι</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">αλλά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">έχει</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">αμελήσει</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">.
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</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">Αρα</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">το</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">θέμα</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">είναι</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">τι</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">κάνουν</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">οι</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"> Tier2/1 providers
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">για</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">να</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μην</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">δημιουργήσουν</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">τέτοιες</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">καταστάσεις</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">.
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</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">Αυτό</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">θα</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ήθελα</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">να</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ρωτήσω</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">τα</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μέλη</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">αυτής</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">της</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">λίστας</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ως</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">τεχνικοί</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">-</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μηχανικοί</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">των</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">εγχώριων</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"> ISP
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">εφόσον</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">αυτό</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">δεν</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">αφορά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ε</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ιχειρηματικά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μυστικά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">.
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">Τι</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μέτρα</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">έχουν</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"> in place ?<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">Εχω</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">την</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">εντύ</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ωση</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">λοι</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">όν</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">οτι</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">κάθε</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"> Tier2/1
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">για</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">να</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">μ</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ορέσει</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">να</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">εφαρμόσει</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">τεχνικές</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">α</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">οφυγής</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
leaking </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">χρειάζεται</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">να</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">κάνει</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ένα</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">διαχωρισμό</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">των</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"> announcements
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">σε</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">α</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">)
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">δικά</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">της</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">β</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">)
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ελατών</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">γ</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">) dual homed π</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">ελατών</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">της</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">και</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">να</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">εφαρμόζει</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">διαφορετικές</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">τεχνικές</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">.<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white">Δημήτρης</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans","sans-serif";color:#474747;background:white"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 13/6/2015 1:56 μμ, Faidon Liambotis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 06/13/15 12:45, Andreas Polyrakis wrote: <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Εκτός από το strict filtering που σωστά αναφέρθηκε -- το οποίο δεν
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δουλεύει τόσο καλά εκτός RIPE region ή για "μεγάλα" peerings -- υπάρχει <br>
και το RPKI. Το RPKI δεν είναι επίσης πανάκεια· δεν αντιμετωπίζει καλά <br>
κακόβουλες ανακοινώσεις, ούτε leaking, αλλά βοηθάει πολύ σε <br>
misconfigurations ή typos. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Ναι, όπως λες όμως... δεν βοήθησε καθόλου εδώ. Τα routes που ανακοινώνονταν διατηρούσαν το origin τους (π.χ. 3549 4788 15169) και ως εκ τούτου το RPKI δεν προστάτευσε κανέναν από αυτούς που έχουν ενεργοποιήσει validation.
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